| Date |
Time |
From |
To |
Message |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:06:48AM |
ncherry |
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Hey juha9668, it's bed time,  |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:07:13AM |
juha9668 |
|
it is? |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:07:39AM |
ncherry |
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It is for me, well it's supposed to be. |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:07:56AM |
juha9668 |
|
ok... get a good rest then |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:08:03AM |
ncherry |
|
I was poking around Groovy and Expect for Java |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:08:25AM |
ncherry |
|
I can't I need to figure out how you guy s are writing this Java stuff. |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:08:41AM |
ncherry |
|
Oops wife just yelled at me gotta go. |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:08:49AM |
juha9668 |
|
ok later |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:37:56AM |
guest5177 |
|
disappointing to see the current generation of browsers still cannot do CSS2 {} |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:38:10AM |
guest5177 |
|
CSS2 {} |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:39:00AM |
guest5177 |
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it was disappointing two years ago I first looked at it but figured it would get there eventually -- two years later still not done {} |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:39:09AM |
guest5177 |
|
it's a shame {} |
| 2009-03-11 |
03:48:20AM |
juha9668 |
|
apparently I should be looking at CSS 2.1 instead |
| 2009-03-11 |
04:56:53AM |
juha2796 |
|
testing personal spaces and blogs |
| 2009-03-11 |
05:01:04AM |
juha2796 |
|
You will see all blogs from the entire site (personal blogs, project blogs, global blogs) aggregated here: http://www.openremote.org/display/project/Community+Blogs |
| 2009-03-11 |
05:01:11AM |
juha2796 |
|
(excuse the lack of CSS for now) |
| 2009-03-11 |
05:02:04AM |
juha2796 |
|
we should probably come up with some criteria which of these end up on the small space we have on the front page (based on username, label, location on site) |
| 2009-03-11 |
05:52:56AM |
juha2796 |
|
debugging some macro layout issues in IE7, going to take a stab at some DNS maintenance next, so if the site disappears.... |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:17:42AM |
marcf |
|
Hey Juha |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:22:51AM |
marcf |
|
let me know what you want to do with the front page design. I liked the color elements from the design. |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:31:08AM |
juha2796 |
|
yes me too, I will look at adding the color classification |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:31:27AM |
ncherry |
|
Monrning! |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:31:38AM |
marcf |
|
morning |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:31:41AM |
juha2796 |
|
morning neil |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:31:43AM |
marcf |
|
afternoon for me |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:31:49AM |
marcf |
|
evening for juha  |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:31:53AM |
juha2796 |
|
yep |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:32:05AM |
ncherry |
|
Well at least we have all the meal s covered |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:32:08AM |
marcf |
|
all one big family |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:32:11AM |
marcf |
|
he |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:32:14AM |
marcf |
|
what's with the font |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:32:21AM |
juha2796 |
|
hmm... so looking at our spring based beehive, it still comes with a 40MB of libs with it -- not exactly feather weight either |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:32:33AM |
marcf |
|
afraid we won't hear you? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:32:44AM |
juha2796 |
|
hey, that hurt my ears |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:33:01AM |
marcf |
|
don't be blasphemous |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:33:20AM |
marcf |
|
40M in java is LIGHTWEIGHT |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:33:33AM |
marcf |
|
ha back to normal font |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:33:43AM |
juha2796 |
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I guess so... by today's standard |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:33:53AM |
marcf |
|
hey speaking of which |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:33:55AM |
juha2796 |
|
call it inflation |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:04AM |
marcf |
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Mark Spencer called yesterday |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:17AM |
marcf |
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he has been looking at some Android based stuff |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:22AM |
juha2796 |
|
cool |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:24AM |
marcf |
|
says we should totally take a look |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:27AM |
marcf |
|
linux and java |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:43AM |
marcf |
|
would require porting and all but may be a good wave to catch soon |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:49AM |
marcf |
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would allow for killer remotes |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:49AM |
juha2796 |
|
software stack is pleasant yes |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:34:58AM |
juha2796 |
|
don't see much hardware yet |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:06AM |
marcf |
|
he has been researching that |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:10AM |
marcf |
|
he is ready to share that with us |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:14AM |
juha2796 |
|
rumour has it much of the API is still undocumented? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:16AM |
marcf |
|
(the hardware) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:21AM |
marcf |
|
oh... |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:32AM |
marcf |
|
probably not something for right now then |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:38AM |
juha2796 |
|
ask him if he took a look at developing? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:40AM |
marcf |
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but definitely something to keep in mind in the near future |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:44AM |
juha2796 |
|
or knows someone? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:49AM |
marcf |
|
he knows someone |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:35:55AM |
marcf |
|
that is what prompted him to reach out |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:05AM |
marcf |
|
looking at touchscreens in the 300 range |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:22AM |
marcf |
|
I could see the controller being a Android |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:26AM |
marcf |
|
a farm of them |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:27AM |
juha2796 |
|
ok... well the rumour of undocumented API is totally unqualified, would be nice to check with someone who's tried it |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:41AM |
marcf |
|
I will put you in contact |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:47AM |
marcf |
|
like I said, not #1 |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:50AM |
marcf |
|
but soon enough |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:50AM |
juha2796 |
|
right |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:56AM |
juha2796 |
|
would be fun |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:36:59AM |
ncherry |
|
Hey guys, what is this controller you speak of? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:37:05AM |
marcf |
|
once we grow to 10 people |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:37:05AM |
juha2796 |
|
we don't know |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:37:18AM |
marcf |
|
mark spencer just mentioned it yesterday to me |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:37:24AM |
marcf |
|
he was all excited about it |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:37:35AM |
marcf |
|
Mark S is kinda like you neil |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:37:39AM |
juha2796 |
|
yeah... people like it, its open and comes from google |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:37:40AM |
marcf |
|
he doesn't do UI too well |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:37:44AM |
marcf |
|
only phone and CLI |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:38:00AM |
ncherry |
|
No I meant whatis the definition of this controller is it a remote or is it the central part fo the system?/ |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:38:09AM |
marcf |
|
good question |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:38:23AM |
marcf |
|
the touchscreen is a controller with a remote |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:38:28AM |
marcf |
|
(Asus eeeTouch) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:38:41AM |
marcf |
|
some of the apps we are about to release are iphone only (KNX) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:38:49AM |
marcf |
|
others will require controller to map to media |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:38:57AM |
marcf |
|
(see Juha's earlier discussion) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:39:21AM |
marcf |
|
(speaking of which as soon as the forums are functional, i don't mind plucking out the content from here on a bi-daily basis) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:39:33AM |
ncherry |
|
The eeeTouch fits my definition of a central controller, something with a lot more resousrce than the remote controllers (early discussion, in the archives?) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:39:46AM |
marcf |
|
yesterday |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:39:54AM |
marcf |
|
and yes on EEETouch |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:40:39AM |
juha2796 |
|
our controller is very close to the definition of zigbee "coordinator" |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:40:55AM |
juha2796 |
|
The most capable device, the coordinator forms the root of the network tree and might bridge to other networks. |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:41:17AM |
marcf |
|
right "bridge to other networks" |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:41:26AM |
juha2796 |
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It is able to store information about the network, including acting as the Trust Centre & repository for security keys. |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:41:27AM |
marcf |
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because in the meantime IP everywhere is a neil joke |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:42:03AM |
marcf |
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The controller needs to come naturally in narratives of what we do |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:42:07AM |
juha2796 |
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where we differentiate is we can have several controllers per network |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:42:13AM |
marcf |
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right now it is central to our discussions, when it shouldn't be |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:42:17AM |
marcf |
|
perhaps, I mean |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:42:19AM |
ncherry |
|
I looked at that and I think we need more resources than the phones have for the central part of the system. |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:42:23AM |
juha2796 |
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in zigbee language coordinator is the first node to start the mesh |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:42:43AM |
marcf |
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I can do KNX remote control without a controller |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:43:10AM |
ncherry |
|
For instance where does the interpreter/central logic live? The stuff that does the if this then that |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:43:21AM |
marcf |
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we can not do IR without a controller because we are missing a IP/IR bridge and the protocol to do it which right now is LIRC/iguana |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:43:40AM |
marcf |
|
yeah but that is the point, in many use cases we don't need an "interpreter" |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:02AM |
marcf |
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central logic appears in some scheduling where you don't want a Human acting but a CPU 24/7 spouting events |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:11AM |
marcf |
|
but it is not central to our narrative |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:15AM |
marcf |
|
our narrative is |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:24AM |
ncherry |
|
Actually yes you do, it's just going to be hidden from the user in most cases (my opinion) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:26AM |
marcf |
|
remotes -> OR -> media |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:30AM |
juha2796 |
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re: IP/IR bridge -- hardware is available but you're faced with "record every remote at home" scenario without LIRC/CCF again |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:40AM |
marcf |
|
sometimes remotes -> media is easy (KNX IP) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:49AM |
marcf |
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and the iphone can be a remote without the necessity of a box |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:44:53AM |
marcf |
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in that case don't buy a box |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:13AM |
juha2796 |
|
everything IP based basically |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:22AM |
marcf |
|
yes |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:24AM |
juha2796 |
|
works straight from console |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:27AM |
marcf |
|
yes |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:29AM |
ncherry |
|
But how does one mix and match the parts? (X10, KNX, Insteon, what-ever)? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:30AM |
juha2796 |
|
iphone, eee touch |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:39AM |
marcf |
|
neil, we agree |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:43AM |
juha2796 |
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mix-match = controller |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:49AM |
marcf |
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you will naturally introduce the controller that way |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:45:55AM |
marcf |
|
juha is right |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:46:15AM |
marcf |
|
mix match, schedules, reporting/audit == controller |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:46:22AM |
marcf |
|
so a controller will come in naturally |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:46:33AM |
marcf |
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but to lead with "a controller" is a false narrative |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:46:50AM |
marcf |
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hence the question yesterday (check the history here) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:47:08AM |
ncherry |
|
I guess I still need to see the code to further understand. I have a feeling the limited CPU and resources of the phone will limit what can be done. |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:47:11AM |
marcf |
|
btw I thought the discussion yesterday was very positive frommany angles |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:47:30AM |
juha2796 |
|
neil: buy ipod touch, it is amazing what ARM9 can pull off |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:47:33AM |
marcf |
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1/ the question was educated the guy had understood what we were about |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:47:51AM |
marcf |
|
so the website sucks less from that perspective |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:47:51AM |
juha2796 |
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I'm playing racing games |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:48:08AM |
marcf |
|
2/ he went right to the question of controller understanding KNX didn't need it |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:48:20AM |
marcf |
|
so overall I took this as a very positive sign |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:48:28AM |
ncherry |
|
Have any of you guys played with an HA system? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:48:38AM |
marcf |
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the website is streamlined and delivers teh story (the narrative) in a better way |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:48:41AM |
juha2796 |
|
meaning? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:48:43AM |
marcf |
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no |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:48:46AM |
marcf |
|
|
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:11AM |
juha2796 |
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.... neil is stuck writing.... |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:17AM |
juha2796 |
|
a novel coming? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:24AM |
marcf |
|
I fear... |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:25AM |
ncherry |
|
The current HA systems allow a lot more than just control of the devices, they also incoprorate pulling information and processing it for user built web pages of for use in other ontrol/monitoing situations. They work 7x24 ... |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:27AM |
marcf |
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nice color |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:35AM |
marcf |
|
yes.... |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:43AM |
juha2796 |
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yeah neil... that is where the middleware will come in |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:44AM |
ncherry |
|
They are the central part of the system |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:50:50AM |
marcf |
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we got it, HA is berry berry complex and requires a cray |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:51:00AM |
ncherry |
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Neil can't type with this keyboard .. Neil Can't type |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:51:15AM |
marcf |
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seriously though |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:51:25AM |
ncherry |
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Well not a cray. |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:51:30AM |
juha2796 |
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7x24 == high availability, replication all that... done in middleware |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:51:36AM |
marcf |
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we are not saying "there will not be a box" |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:51:41AM |
marcf |
|
there WILL be a box |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:51:48AM |
marcf |
|
(and it is a central piece) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:51:52AM |
marcf |
|
but mark my words |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:07AM |
marcf |
|
one of the first products I think will get some traction |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:12AM |
marcf |
|
(KNX iphone) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:14AM |
ncherry |
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This term middleware confuses me (I'm not up on various terms which is where the confusion comes in) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:17AM |
marcf |
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will not require the box |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:25AM |
juha2796 |
|
middleware = server software |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:28AM |
marcf |
|
middle ware == center-ware |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:36AM |
marcf |
|
it is in the center |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:42AM |
marcf |
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of everything, the universe |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:52:46AM |
juha2796 |
|
iphone will not be a server |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:00AM |
ncherry |
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My problem is that it sounds like a marketing term and is very vague |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:03AM |
marcf |
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just j/k |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:11AM |
marcf |
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because it is very vague |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:23AM |
marcf |
|
we intuitively know we will need it |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:30AM |
marcf |
|
until the product is crisp clear |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:35AM |
ncherry |
|
Juha, thanks! That's what I was worried about (Iphone = server) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:36AM |
marcf |
|
"you need this box to do IR over this" |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:43AM |
juha2796 |
|
middleware == OSGI runtime, does that help? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:53:52AM |
marcf |
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then it is just fuzzy |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:54:20AM |
marcf |
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probably not |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:54:24AM |
ncherry |
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Somewhat, I've got to start using the OSGi runtime. I recall it but have not used it yet |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:54:40AM |
juha2796 |
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me neither :-D |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:54:43AM |
juha2796 |
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i just know the marketing terms |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:54:46AM |
juha2796 |
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:-D |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:55:12AM |
marcf |
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he he |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:55:27AM |
marcf |
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I like the colors |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:55:33AM |
ncherry |
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:-P ppttth to Marketing term I are an engineer (how that for a vague term) |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:55:38AM |
juha2796 |
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it helps to follow who is talking |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:56:06AM |
marcf |
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I might as well go transparent because when I talk neil hear s"pffft" |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:56:25AM |
juha2796 |
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it's the great chasm of marketing <--> engineering |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:56:29AM |
marcf |
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neil did you see the latest from china? the assembly? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:56:31AM |
juha2796 |
|
total disconnect |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:56:50AM |
ncherry |
|
Juha, that's usually the problem |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:11AM |
ncherry |
|
Marcf, which assembly, the pictures you sent? |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:16AM |
marcf |
|
http://openremote.finalist.hk/IRBuilder/ |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:19AM |
marcf |
|
no new stuff |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:23AM |
marcf |
|
beehive connected to iphone |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:25AM |
marcf |
|
try it |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:29AM |
marcf |
|
select a product |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:32AM |
marcf |
|
see teh buttons |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:37AM |
marcf |
|
drag and drop them on the page |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:57:38AM |
marcf |
|
voila! |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:58:09AM |
juha2796 |
|
hey speaking of which... somewhat ahead... I'm thinking it would be cool to dig into the database and do some discovery on the type of commands that are there |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:58:15AM |
juha2796 |
|
like people are using '>>' for something |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:58:24AM |
juha2796 |
|
some use 'FWD' |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:58:29AM |
marcf |
|
right |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:58:32AM |
juha2796 |
|
those should map to a common icon |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:58:37AM |
marcf |
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exactly |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:58:44AM |
marcf |
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That makes a ton of sense |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:58:56AM |
marcf |
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also it would make the icons not look like ass |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:59:03AM |
juha2796 |
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hehe yea |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:59:12AM |
juha2796 |
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that will come |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:59:23AM |
juha2796 |
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thinking also the vendor selection could be prettier |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:59:31AM |
juha2796 |
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logos and *** |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:59:31AM |
marcf |
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it is functional for now |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:59:32AM |
ncherry |
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I couldn't get the drag and drop to work on the Macros |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:59:41AM |
marcf |
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me neither |
| 2009-03-11 |
07:59:58AM |
juha2796 |
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yes... functional is goal right now... hence the "that will come" |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:00:16AM |
ncherry |
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It worked well otherwise |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:00:29AM |
marcf |
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I can't make sense of my icon and it drives me nuts is it a dolphin jumping over a dwarf? |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:00:52AM |
juha2796 |
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some linux penguin love |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:01:10AM |
juha2796 |
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that's how it looks to me |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:01:33AM |
marcf |
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much better |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:01:41AM |
marcf |
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a pirate, yay! |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:01:57AM |
ncherry |
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I can't see the icons at all, mine looks like a cookie monster (and hope that's all) |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:02:06AM |
marcf |
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it is a bee |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:02:09AM |
marcf |
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pretty cool |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:02:23AM |
marcf |
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juha is a penguin with a hat |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:02:30AM |
marcf |
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I wish they let us upload ours |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:02:42AM |
juha2796 |
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I'm sure if you pay them $800... |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:02:46AM |
marcf |
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yeah |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:02:57AM |
juha2796 |
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no actually it might be a plugin |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:03:00AM |
juha2796 |
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I think I saw that |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:03:01AM |
ncherry |
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Wiley E. Cyote super genius, I like the way that sounds |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:03:06AM |
juha2796 |
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but its $$$ per year |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:04:11AM |
juha2796 |
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ok the cookie girl is scary |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:04:15AM |
juha2796 |
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(the teeth) |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:04:23AM |
ncherry |
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Not sure Cookie Girl is going to be that popular ... |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:04:50AM |
ncherry |
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Well it's off to the races for me (rat race) |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:05:35AM |
marcf |
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see you later neil |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:06:00AM |
juha2796 |
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later |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:06:43AM |
marcf |
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sent an email to bill re: front page |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:06:46AM |
marcf |
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let's finish it |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:07:15AM |
guest3397 |
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quit the room |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:10:25AM |
juha2796 |
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might need some CSS work later on some subpages (like the forums) -- once I figure out what functional elements we get to use from the software |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:11:50AM |
marcf |
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ok |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:12:11AM |
marcf |
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I like the new chat |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:12:19AM |
marcf |
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at least you feel connected with guys like neil |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:12:28AM |
marcf |
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more real time than the forum |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:12:40AM |
juha2796 |
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yes |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:12:42AM |
marcf |
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if we can use both in a good way, it is an ideal community builder |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:12:53AM |
marcf |
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he took to it like a duck to water |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:13:16AM |
juha2796 |
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need to take the scooter back home, be back later |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:13:23AM |
marcf |
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ok |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:05:45AM |
marcf |
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hello everyone |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:53:58AM |
marcf |
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juha is baaaack |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:54:20AM |
guest3051 |
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been here a while {} |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:55:05AM |
juha2796 |
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looking at how we can attach metadata into our wiki pages... that will come in handy for some tasks |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:55:08AM |
marcf |
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bill said he was going to take a pass at making the one I liked look better and we should be good to go with it |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:55:11AM |
marcf |
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sure |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:56:16AM |
juha2796 |
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tagged and branched beehive 1.0 beta 1 in svn |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:59:02AM |
juha2796 |
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our SVN log shows up here: http://openremote.wiki-neon.adaptavist.com/display/Community/Community+Activity |
| 2009-03-11 |
11:59:24AM |
juha2796 |
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we can pull in some website stats there as well, the current ones are just a quick hack |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:00:20PM |
marcf |
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ok, |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:00:35PM |
marcf |
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you talking about google analytics? |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:00:54PM |
marcf |
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as a first step to know traffic that woudl be good |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:01:04PM |
marcf |
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we really have no idea as is do we |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:01:11PM |
juha2796 |
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no.. these are just page hits on the site, most active contributors, etc |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:01:23PM |
juha2796 |
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there's no geo data etc |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:01:25PM |
marcf |
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page hits is better than nothing |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:01:28PM |
juha2796 |
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yes |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:01:46PM |
marcf |
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google analytics can be embedded in the template |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:01:55PM |
marcf |
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did you ever try it? |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:02:13PM |
juha2796 |
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I haven't tried embedding the data... will check |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:02:55PM |
marcf |
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it is pretty straightforward |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:03:25PM |
marcf |
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what is more interesting in goog analytics is that it gives you how people find you |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:03:28PM |
marcf |
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referrals |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:03:31PM |
marcf |
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search |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:03:34PM |
marcf |
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organic |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:03:45PM |
marcf |
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LOL |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:03:58PM |
marcf |
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the program just told me "don't speak so fast, take a break!" |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:04:00PM |
marcf |
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amazing |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:04:10PM |
marcf |
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it complains I type enter too much |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:04:13PM |
marcf |
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try it it is hilarious |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:04:15PM |
juha2796 |
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thinks you are spamming |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:04:22PM |
juha2796 |
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1 |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:04:31PM |
juha2796 |
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indeed |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:04:34PM |
marcf |
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1 |
| 2009-03-11 |
12:04:47PM |
marcf |
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he |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:29:52PM |
marcf |
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that is a lot of guests is that all juha |
| 2009-03-11 |
01:30:00PM |
marcf |
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ah, google analytics... |
| 2009-03-11 |
08:34:35PM |
ncherry |
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> he took to it like a duck to water I saw that (and you're right ) Only pop'd in for a moment, gotta do my homework (god I feel like I'm in high school, instead if my wife catches me she can really hurt me and not in a good way! |
