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2009-03-12 02:59:44AM juha2796   Apple Rumor Mill: all over the news today "anonymous" source from TW says Apple is ordering 10" LCD screens for their not-yet-released "netbook". Take it with a grain of salt.
2009-03-12 05:10:38AM marcf   enter the room
2009-03-12 05:11:07AM marcf   ooooh
2009-03-12 05:11:35AM marcf   lust..... I want one! 10' net book? oooooh yes please, I can't wait to put my fingers on it
2009-03-12 05:11:50AM marcf   did you see the latest bill draft?
2009-03-12 05:12:17AM marcf   we can't tell what is in the background now
2009-03-12 05:41:34AM juha2796   ..
2009-03-12 05:41:49AM juha2796   sound was off
2009-03-12 05:42:00AM marcf   is there a way to customize sound btw?
2009-03-12 05:42:07AM juha2796   i need something blinking on my taskbar
2009-03-12 05:42:08AM marcf   not that I mind it it is ok
2009-03-12 05:42:14AM marcf   yeah... that is the one thing
2009-03-12 05:42:24AM marcf   can't have it all
2009-03-12 05:42:30AM marcf   hey I like the forum look and feel
2009-03-12 05:42:41AM marcf   you are right
2009-03-12 05:42:45AM marcf   it works
2009-03-12 05:42:50AM juha2796   sounds is too intrusive, need to turn if off sometimes... blink is just the right amount, noticeable but easily ignored when necessary
2009-03-12 05:43:17AM juha2796   good... the CSS still needs a lot of work though
2009-03-12 05:43:25AM juha2796   there's all sorts of weirdness going on
2009-03-12 05:43:33AM juha2796   but I think it is more obvious now that its a forum
2009-03-12 05:44:13AM juha2796   I'll keep fixing the wrinkles as we go
2009-03-12 05:44:26AM juha2796   the forum customization is a tad trickier than the other parts
2009-03-12 05:44:43AM juha2796   it's a new component from adaptavist so not all customization is there yet by default
2009-03-12 05:45:05AM juha2796   the dev seems to be responsive to small tweaks as feature requests
2009-03-12 05:45:19AM juha2796   bigger stuff gets the boiler plate "not enough customer demand yet"
2009-03-12 05:45:26AM marcf   he
2009-03-12 05:45:29AM juha2796   which translates to "would you like to pay for that dev"
2009-03-12 05:45:39AM marcf   open source, gotta love it
2009-03-12 05:45:42AM juha2796   hehe
2009-03-12 05:45:59AM juha2796   not sure they're open source on all their components
2009-03-12 05:46:03AM juha2796   I think its mostly closed
2009-03-12 05:46:06AM marcf   I see
2009-03-12 05:46:07AM juha2796   some OSS pieces here and there
2009-03-12 05:54:24AM juha2796   http://community.openremote.org/display/forums/Apple+Rumor+Mill
2009-03-12 09:01:56AM juha2796   more DNS maintenance coming up... if the site goes poof thats me
2009-03-12 09:36:18AM marcf   funny the guy that complains that it is hard to find the skype public chat (iteration.iter)
2009-03-12 09:36:30AM marcf   now on the new website it will be upfront and in your face
2009-03-12 09:37:17AM guest6496   oh
2009-03-12 09:37:23AM guest6496   new website
2009-03-12 09:37:46AM marcf   yep www.openremote.org now points to the new website
2009-03-12 09:37:58AM marcf   nice!
2009-03-12 09:39:39AM juha2796   yes
2009-03-12 09:40:03AM marcf   congratulations juha!
2009-03-12 09:40:03AM juha2796   not all of the DNS records updated yet but that one is
2009-03-12 09:40:06AM marcf   this is very neat
2009-03-12 10:23:20AM juha2796   that guest welcome message is our website hit counter, hehe
2009-03-12 11:29:44AM guest4958   so how do I register in the chat with a name
2009-03-12 11:32:26AM juha2796   go to full screen, you can change your username there
2009-03-12 11:38:36AM sam   enter the room
2009-03-12 11:39:48AM jean-luc   hello
2009-03-12 11:40:12AM juha2796   seems to work
2009-03-12 11:40:12AM jean-luc   http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/03/12/apple_exploring_magic_wand_controller_for_next_gen_apple_tv.html
2009-03-12 11:40:30AM jean-luc   that will make for an ipod touch as a magic wand remote
2009-03-12 11:40:57AM jean-luc   i will go back now to the non-full screen.
2009-03-12 11:41:16AM jean-luc   or can you not be in the non-full screen and login
2009-03-12 11:42:15AM juha1918   there's no login on the lite
2009-03-12 11:42:23AM guest9977   I see
2009-03-12 12:02:48PM marcf   I just leave teh big window open
2009-03-12 12:02:59PM marcf   there is always something new when I come back
2009-03-12 12:03:18PM jean-luc   when are you off to ATL, Saturday?
2009-03-12 12:03:53PM marcf   nah the week after
2009-03-12 12:04:00PM marcf   the car was shipped yesterday to ATL
2009-03-12 12:04:08PM marcf   will get there 7-12 days after
2009-03-12 12:04:10PM jean-luc   okay
2009-03-12 12:04:18PM marcf   don't ask my why the fuzzyness
2009-03-12 12:04:23PM marcf   something to do with the truck company
2009-03-12 12:04:54PM jean-luc   at least you can go there, since you're not in jail (like Madoff)
2009-03-12 12:05:18PM jean-luc   i will be in beijing by then
2009-03-12 12:05:27PM marcf   so basically the car will be there next wed to next Sun, so I guess I will be there after that
2009-03-12 12:05:35PM marcf   I will miss you then
2009-03-12 12:06:05PM jean-luc   unfortunately, would have been cool to drive it with you...
2009-03-12 12:06:13PM marcf   hey did you sort out the billing with caicai?
2009-03-12 12:06:16PM jean-luc   instead I'll be sitting in Beijing taxis ...
2009-03-12 12:06:21PM marcf   heh
2009-03-12 12:06:23PM jean-luc   yeah
2009-03-12 12:06:31PM marcf   ok thanks
2009-03-12 12:06:41PM jean-luc   I think his idea _was_ that is was some kind of projectwide prepayment
2009-03-12 12:06:54PM marcf   for the help, that was annoying
2009-03-12 12:06:54PM jean-luc   you (and I) did not read it that way obviously
2009-03-12 12:07:09PM jean-luc   now it became a prepayment bydefault
2009-03-12 12:07:31PM jean-luc   so yea, somewhere along the road it will have to be subtracted ...
2009-03-12 12:07:51PM marcf   oh so he meant to have 6400 in escrow all the time
2009-03-12 12:07:55PM jean-luc   yeah
2009-03-12 12:08:08PM marcf   yes i did not understand it like that
2009-03-12 12:08:11PM guest106   quit the room
2009-03-12 12:08:14PM jean-luc   I didn't tet that, but then again I wasnt' involced
2009-03-12 12:08:27PM jean-luc   except
2009-03-12 12:08:31PM marcf   lost in translation
2009-03-12 12:08:46PM jean-luc   phone call in the mean time ...
2009-03-12 12:09:18PM jean-luc   from the emails I could only understand your point
2009-03-12 12:09:49PM marcf   if he wants the escrow that is fine
2009-03-12 12:10:10PM jean-luc   just matter of clarity I guess
2009-03-12 12:10:44PM marcf   not a problem I guess, a bit funky but not a problem
2009-03-12 12:11:07PM jean-luc   I'm trying to stay out of it as much as possible.
2009-03-12 12:11:24PM marcf   don't this is where you can help
2009-03-12 12:11:28PM jean-luc   juha: will you be able to come to beijing in the week of the 23rd?
2009-03-12 12:11:33PM jean-luc   I'm
2009-03-12 12:11:47PM jean-luc   just checking and clarifiyng
2009-03-12 12:13:23PM jean-luc   http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/03/12/apple_to_unveil_iphone_3_0_software_at_march_17th_event.html
2009-03-12 12:30:04PM juha1918 jean-luc Beijing: I could yes.
2009-03-12 12:31:50PM jean-luc   great
2009-03-12 12:32:23PM juha1918 jean-luc any particular days that work the best?
2009-03-12 12:32:51PM jean-luc   no, I will be there the whole week I think so it doesnt really matter
2009-03-12 12:33:33PM juha1918 jean-luc ok
2009-03-12 12:35:32PM jean-luc   This is the hotel, it's around the corner from the office and very afforable
2009-03-12 12:35:34PM jean-luc   https://secure.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/pc/1/en/hotel/pegsd?rpb=hotel&start=11&crUrl=/h/d/pc/1/en/hotelsearchresults
2009-03-12 12:36:38PM juha1918   great, thanks
2009-03-12 12:41:48PM jean-luc   and a good deal too at 360RMB per night ...
2009-03-12 01:13:29PM marcf   what is 360RMB per night?
2009-03-12 01:14:21PM marcf   jean luc, maybe when you guys are in Beijing we work on identify what we can start releasing to the public
2009-03-12 01:14:25PM marcf   pre-alpha obviously
2009-03-12 01:14:39PM marcf   but it is time we get people a demo of what we have been up to
2009-03-12 01:14:54PM marcf   a clean up of documents in google and the mockups, the videos
2009-03-12 01:14:59PM marcf   all the videos are good
2009-03-12 01:35:24PM jean-luc   I think that's a good idea
2009-03-12 01:36:04PM jean-luc   360RMB = 52 dollars
2009-03-12 05:12:29PM ncherry   Howdy!
2009-03-12 05:13:00PM ncherry   Interesting read (the chat history)
2009-03-12 05:18:28PM ncherry   I tried the chat on my WinCE phone but it has no Flash (rats!)
2009-03-12 05:28:38PM marcf   yeah won't work on iphone either
2009-03-12 05:33:04PM marcf   I know Juha is on the lookout for a pure web one but that may take a while
2009-03-12 05:33:04PM marcf   and frankly it is convenient having this hosted
2009-03-12 05:33:04PM marcf   isn't EHX going on? any news? I hear ben drawbaugh is covering it
2009-03-12 06:04:55PM ncherry   I know nothing! For someone who is busy getting a degree I'm feeling pretty well clueless
2009-03-12 06:08:05PM ncherry   What I'm hoping to do is read a few books on avarious subject and maybe get caught up with you Java programmers
2009-03-12 06:08:58PM ncherry   I've spent a little time playing with Groovy and I think I like it. I just pulled down Expect for Java but haven't had a chance to do anything with it.
2009-03-12 06:12:24PM ncherry   Oh, I almost forgot, I looked at the OSGi stuff Juha mentioned and it sounds interesting. I'll see if I can grasp it also.
2009-03-12 06:13:33PM ncherry   Sorry I'm tired of just sitting in the basement doing the low level stuf (Systems stuff) I want to get into the nitty gritty Java programming.
2009-03-12 06:14:01PM ncherry   ANd yes I know I'm talking to myself, this is th eonly time I can get to play.
2009-03-12 06:46:09PM ncherry   Okay, I'm a little happier (no I haven't been drinking )
2009-03-12 06:47:32PM ncherry   I just read up on the OSGi and I really like the ability to dynamically install, start, stop, update and uninstall as well a register the services
2009-03-12 06:48:15PM ncherry   I just didn't realize that what all of this was called (terminology). I'll go play now
2009-03-12 11:26:35PM juha1624   hey neil.... yes dynamically install, start, stop, update and uninstall is what JBoss was doing since 2001 -- it just wasn't called OSGi back then and it didn't get marketeers panties wet. But same idea. These days there's an OSGi wrapper around JBossMC
2009-03-12 11:26:47PM juha1624   which does the same thing

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