| Date |
Time |
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To |
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| 2009-04-15 |
03:40:47 AM |
*juha* |
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In the News: "iPhone to become a home systems OpenRemote" (Matt Asay): http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10218730-16.html |
| 2009-04-15 |
05:27:48 AM |
*juha* |
|
http://www.practicalarduino.com/index.php?/archives/41-Arduino-wired-into-my-RX-8.html |
| 2009-04-15 |
05:28:00 AM |
*juha* |
|
My RX-8 has an Alix-1 computer in the boot (thanks to Yawarra!) which is connected to a bunch of devices in the car, including an Arduino wired into the ignition system |
| 2009-04-15 |
05:30:12 AM |
*juha* |
|
the video shows an iphone UI that he uses to unlock the car and start the engine, pretty neat  |
| 2009-04-15 |
05:55:21 AM |
*juha* |
|
also an Arduino based MP3 player: http://www.practicalarduino.com/index.php?/archives/31-Playing-MP3s-with-an-Arduino.html |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:19:20 AM |
ncherry |
|
Juha, I think you posted something on this before: http://hackaday.com/2009/01/24/wattcher-twittering-kill-a-watt-plans-posted/ |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:19:29 AM |
ncherry |
|
This one seems a little different |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:20:37 AM |
*juha* |
|
publishing house data on twitter? yes there seems to have been a couple of projects around this idea |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:21:16 AM |
*juha* |
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I'm still not sure why on twitter (any personal push feed would do, no?)... twitter seems a rather public service to push that kind of data |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:29:07 AM |
ncherry |
|
Well either Twitter or Facebook are useful (Facebook is a bit of a pain though) as there are apps that run on the phone to update you on a status change |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:29:36 AM |
ncherry |
|
You are correct that you're posting info toa public place and there has to be some caution |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:29:49 AM |
ncherry |
|
Here's taking one step further: |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:30:11 AM |
ncherry |
|
http://www.slashgear.com/tweet-a-watt-prompts-xbee-router-hack-0640203/ |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:30:32 AM |
ncherry |
|
They've added XBee to a router running OpenWRT |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:31:11 AM |
ncherry |
|
Of course we won't need the router as we'll have the OpenRemote Controller (ORC) that can handle this |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:34:31 AM |
ncherry |
|
Sometime this summer I've got to get a few XBees and compare the One-Net wireless to the XBee and for good measure the TI EZ430's also. I can see I'll have a lot of projects |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:34:52 AM |
ncherry |
|
Now if I can just clean up my garage so I can get to my bench! |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:35:39 AM |
*juha* |
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yeah I'll plan to get some xbees too... they look too much fun to play with |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:36:45 AM |
ncherry |
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Hye, I thought you were just software, learn something new everyday (MarcF is just Software and MarcS is jsut hardware, right?) |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:37:40 AM |
*juha* |
|
I am just software, but I am open to new experiences |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:38:10 AM |
*juha* |
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or in other words -- I don't know jack about hardware but I can learn. |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:39:38 AM |
*juha* |
|
I am encouraged by my alix experience |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:40:29 AM |
*juha* |
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(that I managed to build something that actually worked) |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:43:05 AM |
ncherry |
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WellI think the Audrino would make a good platform for playing but if you want something else take a look at the Futurlec stuff: http://futurlec.com/index.shtml |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:43:46 AM |
*juha* |
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i'll check it out, although xbee and arduino are at the top of the list of toys I want to try out at the moment |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:44:05 AM |
*juha* |
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(plus something like Sun SPOT -- ARM + java on bare metal, mmmmm!) |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:44:17 AM |
ncherry |
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They're slow to ship but prices are great. It might not be the correct place for you to start but I have little doubt you would not be able to tackle these eventually. |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:44:56 AM |
ncherry |
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Embedded systems/programming is a bit more painful than the bigger systems. Sometimes it a real DIY project even for the Pros. |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:45:25 AM |
ncherry |
|
Well there was the Java Stamp |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:45:52 AM |
ncherry |
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ANd something else (I have 3 of them) running on a 16 bit 8031 like processor |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:46:07 AM |
*juha* |
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hey so any experiences on the various OS'es people put on these systems... I've spotted TinyOS and Contiki so far, both look interesting |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:46:39 AM |
ncherry |
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Most of my embedded work has been with no OS |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:46:51 AM |
ncherry |
|
When I've used an OS it's been Linux |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:47:12 AM |
ncherry |
|
Contiki has an excellent reputation |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:48:05 AM |
*juha* |
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btw, linuxha is still driving a great chunk of traffic to us, Thank You |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:49:07 AM |
ncherry |
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I want this project to succeed. I can't write this kind of Smart Home software on my own. Oh and you're welcome. I'll keep pushing |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:49:17 AM |
*juha* |
|
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| 2009-04-15 |
10:49:18 AM |
ncherry |
|
I'm really glad to see the articles |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:49:52 AM |
ncherry |
|
HEY MARC! Wake up! |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:50:28 AM |
*juha* |
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he was up earlier, I'm sure he'll be back soon, I think he's enjoying the mediterranean sun |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:51:11 AM |
ncherry |
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I'm 'enjoying' the NJ rain.  |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:52:02 AM |
*juha* |
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(either that or he is busy with mathematical models for modern finance  |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:53:46 AM |
ncherry |
|
ICK! That's scary, wouldn't he rather read something cheerier like Amagedon or Nostradamus? |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:53:58 AM |
*juha* |
|
hehehe |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:55:47 AM |
ncherry |
|
I'm looking at Netbooks, I think I like the Samsung NC20, a bit expensive but slightly larger |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:56:28 AM |
*juha* |
|
oh there's one really cool one, don't know if its in production, somebody emailed the link... |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:57:02 AM |
ncherry |
|
Well I won't be picking one up until probably August/September |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:57:07 AM |
*juha* |
|
http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:57:10 AM |
*juha* |
|
it is ARM based |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:57:33 AM |
*juha* |
|
removable screen |
| 2009-04-15 |
10:59:21 AM |
ncherry |
|
Hardware-wise I like the sound, 6 USB, WiFi G, Bluetooth. I need to read a bit more |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:01:15 AM |
ncherry |
|
Comes with TinyOS (Open Source) doesn't sound like Linux |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:01:35 AM |
ncherry |
|
But for the price, a touch screen, hmm |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:02:51 AM |
*juha* |
|
yeah |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:02:56 AM |
*juha* |
|
touch screen part is nice |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:03:08 AM |
*juha* |
|
although i suspect we will see a lot of touch netbooks soon |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:03:41 AM |
*juha* |
|
there was some talk about ARM based linux distro recently |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:04:50 AM |
ncherry |
|
Building a Linux Distro isn't too difficult. I'm just wondering about the TinyOS and what Apps are on it. I like the instant on idea. |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:05:15 AM |
ncherry |
|
The ARM should give anything not MS an 'ARM' up |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:06:08 AM |
*juha* |
|
yeah although it looks like Linux on netbooks didn't really catch on... people still wanted windows |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:06:29 AM |
ncherry |
|
I'd preorder one but I'm about to upgrade my server setup and I need to money to setup a temporary backup server so my home isn't down during the upgrade (FC 6 - Centos 5) |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:06:59 AM |
*juha* |
|
first time around in TW it was easy to get a linux based netbooks (all the cheapest models had them)... now you had to ask for it and the staff at the shop wasn't even sure if you could get them with Linux on it |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:08:14 AM |
ncherry |
|
I usually don't care, I'm used to putting Linux on everything. |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:10:15 AM |
*juha* |
|
sure I thought it was ok too but based on anecdotal evidence, windows is so deeply ingrained people just don't know how to deal with something different |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:10:31 AM |
*juha* |
|
ie. they would download an .exe of software and not understand why it would not install |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:10:57 AM |
*juha* |
|
somehow apple seems to manage around this though |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:11:02 AM |
ncherry |
|
That's why when we're done with OpenRemote the user won't know what OS is underneath |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:11:23 AM |
ncherry |
|
Apple has a certain follwoing that's not the sheep |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:22:08 AM |
jean-luc |
|
he juha can you check the boot on the eee pc for me? |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:22:24 AM |
jean-luc |
|
I got another smaller stick and still can't get the eee to boot |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:22:50 AM |
jean-luc |
|
I can boot my laptop with either stick to ubuntu but not the eee |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:23:15 AM |
*juha* |
|
ok will check |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:26:18 AM |
jean-luc |
|
tak! |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:38:37 AM |
*juha* |
|
so what does your B202 say on Boot Device Priority? |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:43:23 AM |
jean-luc |
|
first what do you have at usb configuration |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:44:20 AM |
*juha* |
|
1 keyboard, 1 mouse, 1 drive -> Generic Multi-Card, Emulation [Auto] |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:44:26 AM |
jean-luc |
|
under advanced usb configuration. Is it on Auto? |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:44:54 AM |
jean-luc |
|
so auto |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:44:58 AM |
*juha* |
|
yes |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:45:07 AM |
jean-luc |
|
what slot are you using of the 4 |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:45:26 AM |
*juha* |
|
used the front IIRC |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:45:33 AM |
jean-luc |
|
left or right |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:45:40 AM |
*juha* |
|
let me try with a stick |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:45:58 AM |
jean-luc |
|
yeah - see if it works first |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:52:03 AM |
ncherry6620 |
|
1 Drive? Is that your Stick or is it a real hard drive? |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:53:11 AM |
*juha* |
|
ok yeah change auto to "Forced FDD" |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:53:18 AM |
*juha* |
|
that is needed |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:53:38 AM |
*juha* |
|
on the USB stick |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:53:40 AM |
*juha* |
|
not on the HDD |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:56:21 AM |
jean-luc |
|
FDD? |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:56:33 AM |
jean-luc |
|
not HDD |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:57:44 AM |
*juha* |
|
well use HDD if it works |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:58:16 AM |
jean-luc |
|
so what do you have under boot |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:58:29 AM |
jean-luc |
|
removable drives? |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:58:36 AM |
jean-luc |
|
boot device priority |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:58:52 AM |
*juha* |
|
USB first, HDD last |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:59:15 AM |
jean-luc |
|
but with forced on the usb is not in the list |
| 2009-04-15 |
11:59:44 AM |
*juha* |
|
if you removed the stick, try booting to BIOS again |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:00:30 PM |
jean-luc |
|
the options change based on the usb settings |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:00:48 PM |
*juha* |
|
I got Device #1: USB Flash disk [Forced FDD] and Boot 1st [USB:USB Flash Disk] |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:00:55 PM |
jean-luc |
|
ok |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:02:14 PM |
*juha* |
|
another thing, when you boot your laptop from the stick, do you get the unetbootin menu with "default" etc or it just boots direct? |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:02:33 PM |
jean-luc |
|
first the choice from unetbootin |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:02:39 PM |
*juha* |
|
ok |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:03:09 PM |
jean-luc |
|
on the eee I jsut get the message reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media and press a key |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:03:22 PM |
*juha* |
|
hrm |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:03:32 PM |
*juha* |
|
wierd |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:03:54 PM |
jean-luc |
|
it looks like it's not a bootable stick. But I know it is, at least on my laptop. |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:03:58 PM |
ncherry6620 |
|
That soounds like the FDD part |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:04:38 PM |
jean-luc |
|
its on forced fdd, have tryd cdrom / hd also. |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:04:53 PM |
jean-luc |
|
and now my second stick. Must be something simple ... |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:06:33 PM |
*juha* |
|
what bios version do you have? |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:06:40 PM |
jean-luc |
|
let me check |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:06:50 PM |
*juha* |
|
i have 0701 |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:07:02 PM |
jean-luc |
|
0701 09/02/08 |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:07:05 PM |
*juha* |
|
build date 09/02/08 |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:07:07 PM |
*juha* |
|
same |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:07:32 PM |
jean-luc |
|
so your stick is in front? how big is it? |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:07:37 PM |
*juha* |
|
you could try to load setup defaults and try again |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:07:39 PM |
*juha* |
|
1gb |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:07:53 PM |
jean-luc |
|
mine is 2 (and 4)... |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:08:05 PM |
jean-luc |
|
did you create it on the eee under windows |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:08:13 PM |
*juha* |
|
no |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:08:16 PM |
*juha* |
|
on a laptop |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:08:18 PM |
jean-luc |
|
me neither |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:08:22 PM |
*juha* |
|
i will try 2gb stick |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:08:29 PM |
jean-luc |
|
the chinese windows is really hard to work with . |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:08:44 PM |
jean-luc |
|
Yes curious to see. I'm sure that will work for you ... |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:14:16 PM |
*juha* |
|
well it wanted different settings... |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:14:45 PM |
*juha* |
|
on the 2g I used [auto] but then had to change the hard drives order to set the USB stick as 1st drive (under boot priority) |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:15:21 PM |
*juha* |
|
otherwise it wouldn't boot |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:15:29 PM |
*juha* |
|
so it seems to be a combination of things |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:15:35 PM |
*juha* |
|
tinkering required |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:15:50 PM |
*juha* |
|
furbished B202 may be a business after all |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:16:11 PM |
jean-luc |
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so auto + usb at first under boot priority |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:16:23 PM |
*juha* |
|
no.. hard drives |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:16:28 PM |
*juha* |
|
in boot |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:16:46 PM |
*juha* |
|
auto + usb first boot priority + hard drives usb first drive |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:18:26 PM |
jean-luc |
|
magic .... auto + usb + harddrive... duh |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:18:28 PM |
jean-luc |
|
it works now |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:18:37 PM |
*juha* |
|
hehe |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:18:38 PM |
jean-luc |
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thanks |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:18:43 PM |
*juha* |
|
pain in the ass |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:19:11 PM |
*juha* |
|
PITA == service biz |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:19:46 PM |
jean-luc |
|
yeah - imagine supporting them and not selling them configured |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:20:07 PM |
jean-luc |
|
now I'll continue reading your manual. |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:20:31 PM |
jean-luc |
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I'll add the specific config option. Really I was sure I tried al combos. But I didn't |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:29:00 PM |
jean-luc |
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maybe it was also the extra reboot in between because I'm pretty sure I had that setting originally. I will go back to factory settings to check it later on. Now installing ubuntu |
| 2009-04-15 |
12:39:29 PM |
jean-luc |
|
booting ubuntu from hdd now - done... |
| 2009-04-15 |
01:04:58 PM |
guest9175 |
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i use ubuntu also |
| 2009-04-15 |
01:05:05 PM |
guest9175 |
|
|
| 2009-04-15 |
01:23:28 PM |
jean-luc |
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yeah it's a nice package. Just had trouble booting my EEE from memory stick |
| 2009-04-15 |
01:52:19 PM |
*juha* |
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neil: the tweet-a-watt xbee router hack does look like fun.. |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:05:53 PM |
jean-luc |
|
when doing sh setup.sh in the lirc directory I get the message 'dialog not found" |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:05:58 PM |
jean-luc |
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any idea? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:11:16 PM |
ncherry |
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Jean-luc sh ./setup.sh the '.' (this directory) is not in your path - leave it that way) |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:12:10 PM |
ncherry |
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Juha, I think it should work with any OpenWRT compatible router. I may pick up a Netgear 108MBps router at tigerdirect for that. |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:14:16 PM |
ncherry |
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Oops, dialog not found? You may be lacking the dialog package. It's not typically installed with Ubuntu |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:14:48 PM |
jean-luc |
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I'm sure it's about this then: # apt-get install gcc make libusb-dev dialog |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:14:52 PM |
ncherry |
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You might link Xdialog to dialog and see if that works but I'm not sure the syntax between the two commands is the same |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:15:20 PM |
ncherry |
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Yeah that might be the easy way to fix the problem. |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:15:52 PM |
ncherry |
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Go ahead and take the easy way and see if you learn anything |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:15:58 PM |
*juha* |
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you need 'dialog' command, that's correct |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:16:07 PM |
jean-luc |
|
yeah- learning a lot here |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:16:33 PM |
jean-luc |
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apt-get gives: E:couldnt find package make-libusb-dev I guess I have to download that too? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:16:50 PM |
*juha* |
|
yes |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:16:53 PM |
ncherry |
|
I guess so |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:16:58 PM |
*juha* |
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and make sure to do apt-get update first |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:18:56 PM |
*juha* |
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neil: I admit ignorance, I've no idea what OpenWRT is? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:19:13 PM |
jean-luc |
|
where to get make-libusb-dev? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:19:21 PM |
ncherry |
|
A Linux distro of the embedded sort |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:19:24 PM |
*juha* |
|
apt-get libusb-dev |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:20:31 PM |
ncherry |
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You might want to use synaptic to install all theis stuff. I usually does a good job of installing everything (didn't for Crypt::SSLeay) |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:20:57 PM |
*juha* |
|
yeah synaptic is also good |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:21:09 PM |
ncherry |
|
Hey I can't use double colons? Grrr :: |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:21:17 PM |
ncherry |
|
??? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:21:39 PM |
ncherry |
|
Oh can't use :S (Colon S) |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:22:26 PM |
jean-luc |
|
good idea... |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:23:17 PM |
*juha* |
|
# apt-get update # apt-get install gcc make libusb-dev dialog |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:23:32 PM |
*juha* |
|
:S |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:23:41 PM |
*juha* |
|
:: |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:24:09 PM |
ncherry |
|
I don't know why they had to reinvent to emoticons |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:24:17 PM |
*juha* |
|
well... |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:24:30 PM |
*juha* |
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dunno |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:24:42 PM |
ncherry |
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I think there's an RFC for it |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:24:48 PM |
*juha* |
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really?? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:24:52 PM |
*juha* |
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or are you kidding? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:24:55 PM |
jean-luc |
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I installed libusb-dev through synaptics |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:25:34 PM |
jean-luc |
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still get dialog not found - so what package for dialog? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:25:45 PM |
*juha* |
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# apt-get install gcc make libusb-dev dialog |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:26:25 PM |
jean-luc |
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gotit ... |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:26:29 PM |
*juha* |
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| 2009-04-15 |
02:27:01 PM |
ncherry |
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I guess there is no RFC for smileys, might have been an April fools pranks |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:27:33 PM |
*juha* |
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there should be, for the sake of chat app interoperability :-P |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:27:53 PM |
ncherry |
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Jean-luc just link Xdialog to dialog like this: |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:28:48 PM |
ncherry |
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sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xdialog /usr/bin/dialog |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:30:02 PM |
ncherry |
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Juha, yeah, on this chat :-P is ':' and 'P' and you get |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:30:12 PM |
ncherry |
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That looks weird |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:34:55 PM |
jean-luc |
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is there a download for the controller software yet? |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:35:12 PM |
*juha* |
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yeah, subversion |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:35:24 PM |
jean-luc |
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ah checkout ... |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:35:39 PM |
jean-luc |
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I'll ask the guys for a personal version |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:36:04 PM |
jean-luc |
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still waiting for my IR module to arrive anyway |
| 2009-04-15 |
02:40:25 PM |
ncherry |
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Juha, Touch Book OS is a Linux distribution based on OpenEmbedded: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:01:22 PM |
ncherry |
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Hey Juha, did you notice that the TouchBook was $299 w/o the keyboard and $399 with? That's an expensive keyboard. |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:01:55 PM |
*juha* |
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no I didn't notice |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:02:14 PM |
*juha* |
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it's more than just keyboard hw in it though, no? |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:03:07 PM |
ncherry |
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The main CPU section is in the touch screen, I don't know what's in the keyboard (other than the mouse). |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:03:28 PM |
ncherry |
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Still as a HA touch screen $299 is not a bad price. |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:03:34 PM |
*juha* |
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Two batteries, one in each part |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:04:14 PM |
ncherry |
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If we look at it for the correct purpose the pricing doesn't become a problem. $399 for a Netbook, a bit steep. See waht I mean? |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:04:40 PM |
*juha* |
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yeah, $299 wall panel is quite nice, yes? |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:05:52 PM |
ncherry |
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At 1280x600, yes that's great |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:06:18 PM |
ncherry |
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It doesn't do multitouch but I'm not sure that will be a problem |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:06:27 PM |
*juha* |
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interesting bit in the faq about internal USB |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:06:42 PM |
*juha* |
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Q. I heard about internal USBs? What are they? A. The innovative design includes internal USB plugs. We all hate having dongles hanging from our laptop - we often end up disconnecting them accidentally — so we opted to put the USB inside. If putting a USB device inside your Touch Book sounds hard - don't worry! We've designed the Touch Book so you can easily open it up to add and remove USB devices. |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:07:05 PM |
ncherry |
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That was weird, I'm not sure I understand but I'm not sure we'll need it. As a touch screen we need the WiFI |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:23:33 PM |
*juha* |
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JL: commentary on your Citizen M review: http://remoteshoppe.com/index.php?itemid=882 |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:26:39 PM |
jean-luc |
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good for back links, I hope |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:30:40 PM |
*juha* |
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Open-source iPhone plan to control your home: JBoss disrupter returns - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/15/openremore_prototype/ |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:35:55 PM |
*juha* |
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"A glance at the X10 website, which is chock-full of bodacious babes hawking cameras, security systems, lighting controllers and more, may not inspire confidence in the maturity of the home automation community. However, the OpenRemote folks really are serious developers " |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:36:43 PM |
jean-luc |
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If you google citizenm + pronto you will get to the openremote blog... as 1 item |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:38:05 PM |
*juha* |
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that's the way to do it |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:38:50 PM |
ncherry |
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Hey, I'm doing my part too. |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:39:17 PM |
ncherry |
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Actually this is very cool, it make the Register! Woah! 8-| |
| 2009-04-15 |
04:39:19 PM |
ncherry |
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| 2009-04-15 |
05:55:28 PM |
jean-luc |
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we're on our way to 1,000 visitors to the website in one day! |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:02:40 PM |
guest6986 |
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hi, where I can find your iphone app? |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:03:00 PM |
guest6986 |
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do you have plan to support arduino? |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:03:52 PM |
*juha* |
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we are still waiting for Apple to approve our application for iphone app store account |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:05:37 PM |
*juha* |
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we generally plan to support things at protocol level... if the hardware behind that protocol is built on Arduino we're happy about that but no plans for directly supporting it -- we are not building actuator hardware (yet) |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:13:24 PM |
guest6986 |
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I am imaging that using iphone to control arduino(through ethernet or wifi) |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:13:40 PM |
guest6986 |
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a lot of user will be very interested |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:15:04 PM |
guest6986 |
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dummy question: openremote on arduino will be sth line OpenSoundControl ? |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:15:58 PM |
*juha* |
guest6986 |
right.. so the way it will work is that you would integrate the IP protocol your arduino device understands to OpenRemote infrastructure, which includes the customizable iphone app |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:16:46 PM |
*juha* |
guest6986 |
I'm not familiar with OpenSoundControl, sorry |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:17:35 PM |
guest6986 |
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good. is the iphone app free or $0.99 or sth? I don't mind to pay a small fee for your hard work. {} |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:20:30 PM |
*juha* |
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There will be free and for pay versions, most likely (with differing feature sets). We haven't defined the product yet to say anything definite about price/features. |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:23:51 PM |
guest2164 |
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that's good. I really hope more developers/users join you and make your database larger/better than logitech harmony... seriously, I mean it. |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:24:09 PM |
*juha* |
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thanks! |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:26:56 PM |
guest2164 |
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btw, I am planning to develop wifi enabled remote control on arduino, and I am looking forward to use your iphone app. |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:28:06 PM |
*juha* |
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sounds great... let us know how it goes, feel free to post on the forums or wiki about what you discover and howto's around hw and arduino |
| 2009-04-15 |
06:28:30 PM |
guest2164 |
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sure. thank you. |
