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2009-05-01 01:40:30 AM ncherry   Okay, I really must admit that the interface on the ipod/iphone is really slick! When I replace my current data phone the replacement will be the iPhone. Also next month I'll get the Dev license to play around with this thing.
2009-05-01 06:42:27 AM jean-luc   you can sign up for free and do stuff on your iphone/ipod
2009-05-01 06:42:42 AM jean-luc   the $100 is only if you want to put stuff in the store
2009-05-01 09:07:50 AM mredeker   the $100 is also to put stuff on your iPhone
2009-05-01 09:08:01 AM mredeker   without you can only use simulator
2009-05-01 09:08:30 AM mredeker   or you can use a jailbroke iphone (that's how i put the OR appl on my iphone)
2009-05-01 09:08:44 AM *juha*   hey marcus
2009-05-01 09:08:54 AM mredeker   hi
2009-05-01 09:09:06 AM mredeker   i am almos done with the telnet event
2009-05-01 09:09:11 AM *juha*   cool !
2009-05-01 09:09:24 AM *juha*   you used apache lib right?
2009-05-01 09:09:30 AM mredeker   yes
2009-05-01 09:10:24 AM *juha*   i think my home adsl router is also with telnet admin interface
2009-05-01 09:10:31 AM *juha*   cant remember where the manual is though
2009-05-01 09:11:09 AM mredeker   i use it for the mythtv client in the moment
2009-05-01 09:12:31 AM *juha*   was looking at your stuff, the EZcontrol is with HTML interface?
2009-05-01 09:12:41 AM *juha*   or is that a real HTTP API?
2009-05-01 09:12:55 AM mredeker   just html interface
2009-05-01 09:13:06 AM mredeker   you do a get with some parameters and that it
2009-05-01 09:13:24 AM *juha*   neat
2009-05-01 09:14:07 AM mredeker   the ezcontrol works with alot of the radio controlled outlets and dimmer sold in germany
2009-05-01 09:14:27 AM mredeker   you can create a low cost solution without KNX or X10
2009-05-01 09:31:53 AM ncherry   Morning folks!
2009-05-01 09:32:09 AM ncherry   What's this simulator?
2009-05-01 09:32:40 AM mredeker   it comes with the xcode development environment when youd download it from apple
2009-05-01 09:33:20 AM ncherry   For $100 it's sounds like it's not a big deal to get the dev pkg
2009-05-01 09:33:32 AM mredeker   thats is an anual fee
2009-05-01 09:33:33 AM ncherry   What OS for the simulator?
2009-05-01 09:33:42 AM ncherry   ANNUAL FEE! ick!
2009-05-01 09:33:49 AM mredeker   you need a mac OSx
2009-05-01 09:34:00 AM ncherry   Big problem then
2009-05-01 09:34:16 AM ncherry   (for me anyway)
2009-05-01 09:34:28 AM *juha*   morning neil
2009-05-01 09:35:28 AM ncherry   Morning Juha, I think I need a few more hours of sleep, stayed up until dawn using the ipod. Needed recharging twice
2009-05-01 09:35:30 AM mredeker   juha: just giving the telnetEvent the last tuning and then i will prepare another zip with all my stuff
2009-05-01 09:35:48 AM *juha*   cool and cool
2009-05-01 09:35:53 AM ncherry   Will this go into the SVN?
2009-05-01 09:36:02 AM mredeker   i hope so
2009-05-01 09:36:27 AM ncherry   Good, I thnk that may be the start I need to start really playing, thanks
2009-05-01 09:36:28 AM *juha*   well hopefully, just need to sort out the contributors agreement but other than that, yes it will go in
2009-05-01 09:44:05 AM jean-luc   any progress on that yet?
2009-05-01 09:54:26 AM *juha*   we have an agreement from last year, just need to find it
2009-05-01 09:55:17 AM ncherry   I thought I read it recently (can't remember where) that it was very much like the JBoss agreement
2009-05-01 09:55:36 AM ncherry   It was in one of the overviews.
2009-05-01 09:55:46 AM *juha*   yeah basically what jboss/redhat and mysql and others do
2009-05-01 09:58:01 AM ncherry   Right now you seem to have it as the GPL but I think you've asked that the copyright be transfered, I'm still looking
2009-05-01 10:00:27 AM *juha*   the agreement is not on the website at the moment
2009-05-01 10:00:44 AM ncherry   Part of it is in the FAQ:
2009-05-01 10:00:45 AM ncherry   http://community.openremote.org/display/FAQS/Frequently+Asked+Questions#FrequentlyAskedQuestions-WhatistheORContributorLicenseAgreement%3F
2009-05-01 10:03:43 AM ncherry   Mr. E Deker, if you get a chance may I also see a copy of your code?
2009-05-01 10:05:15 AM jean-luc   juha: I was actually thinking about the Apple agreement, any progress there?
2009-05-01 10:08:36 AM *juha*   faxed more papers yesterday, waiting for apple to move
2009-05-01 10:09:00 AM ncherry   Hmm, my Brookdale presentation is garnering interest from as far away as Virginia!
2009-05-01 10:09:20 AM ncherry   What do you think should be my main emphasis on OR?
2009-05-01 10:10:58 AM *juha*   1) we are building openremote as an open community effort in contrast to the current industry trend which tends to be proprietary or pay-to-play in terms of specifications and interoperability.
2009-05-01 10:11:21 AM *juha*   2) we believe the current industry state increases hardware costs (a lot of the service is subsidized by higher hardware margin which also means lack of interest in interoperability standards in order to protect that margin). We target off-the-shelf hardware and aim to increase consumer choice by building interoperability and therefore reduce hardware cost
2009-05-01 10:11:49 AM *juha*   3) we believe *high-quality* smart homes should not be exclusive to million-dollar (or pound) homes but available to a larger audience of home-owners. We enable do-it-yourself users with hardware build instructions and open source software. We provide pre-built and pre-installed hardware and software to professional installers and home-owners who look for a ready-to-use product.
2009-05-01 10:12:07 AM *juha*   4) by using open source we remove barriers to user innovation -- do-it-yourself community is free to innovate, prototype and build features into the software. We get superior QA to integrate various HA systems into OpenRemote which furthers our goals of #2 and #3.
2009-05-01 10:12:42 AM ncherry   Good I'll put that in the slides (you'll get credit for that information)
2009-05-01 10:12:59 AM ncherry   I'll also show it to you so I don't mess it up
2009-05-01 10:13:43 AM jean-luc   OR state of the Union? Cool
2009-05-01 10:14:33 AM ncherry   Well I just received an email from a Va. gentleman and he's asking business questions
2009-05-01 10:15:23 AM ncherry   I'm going to forward him to MarcF, I don't want to represent myself as a business person. I'm not that good at it (ADD - oh look butterfiles ...)
2009-05-01 10:15:48 AM mredeker   ncherry: course you can see the stuff
2009-05-01 10:16:02 AM ncherry   Thanks!
2009-05-01 10:16:38 AM jean-luc   re 4) maybe leave out the explicit reference to DIY and rather say 'community'. DIY has such a so-so connotation?
2009-05-01 10:17:48 AM ncherry   Yeah, that will depend on the audience, this is a general PC crowd so they might not understand the DIY part. But if it were a Linux group I'd keep it as they'd understand.
2009-05-01 01:00:11 PM *juha*   Eee TOP as HA wall panel: http://blog.hekkers.net/2009/04/22/asus-top-as-home-automation-touch-screen/
2009-05-01 01:05:36 PM jean-luc   a 160gb wall panel
2009-05-01 01:11:13 PM *juha*   well... serves as a controller as well as a MP3 server... :-P
2009-05-01 01:49:45 PM ncherry   I'm guessing that he cut a hole in the wall to hide the depth and power cable
2009-05-01 02:01:07 PM *juha*   yes
2009-05-01 06:46:09 PM guest4266   what's new?
2009-05-01 06:46:25 PM ncherry   Plenty!
2009-05-01 06:46:27 PM ncherry  
2009-05-01 06:46:28 PM guest4266   like?
2009-05-01 06:46:53 PM ncherry   We're laying out plans for the scripting language
2009-05-01 06:47:22 PM guest4266   cool
2009-05-01 06:47:28 PM ncherry   The demo of OpenRemote is linked to the main page (Youtube videos)
2009-05-01 06:47:46 PM ncherry   and I finally got an ipod
2009-05-01 06:48:22 PM kdavis   /whois kdavis
2009-05-01 06:48:27 PM kdavis   guess that doesn't work
2009-05-01 06:48:37 PM kdavis   lol
2009-05-01 06:48:49 PM kdavis   so, is there a plan for telephony support?
2009-05-01 06:48:55 PM kdavis   I currently use linuxmce
2009-05-01 06:49:06 PM kdavis   but, I like HAI and there isn't much support for HAI in linuxmce (yet)
2009-05-01 06:49:25 PM kdavis   I've also read some threads that digitaldan plans to integrate HAI with openremote, which has gotten me interested in openremote
2009-05-01 06:51:00 PM kdavis   guess I killed the conversation
2009-05-01 06:53:46 PM ncherry   No my cell phone was on the other side of the house and it rang
2009-05-01 06:53:54 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 06:54:37 PM ncherry   At this time we don't have telephony plans, we'd probably integrate with another open source project (ex: Asterisk)
2009-05-01 06:55:03 PM ncherry   I wrote a chapter on using Asterisk in my book and I like it though it is complicated
2009-05-01 06:55:20 PM kdavis   yup, asterisk was my idea
2009-05-01 06:55:23 PM kdavis   i use it at home...
2009-05-01 06:55:41 PM kdavis   with Cisco 7970's and Polycoms phones... I also plan to get an Aastra.
2009-05-01 06:55:44 PM ncherry   I have echo problems due to software echo
2009-05-01 06:56:06 PM kdavis   have you looked at OSELC?
2009-05-01 06:56:07 PM ncherry   I have a Csico 7960
2009-05-01 06:56:15 PM ncherry   OSELC?
2009-05-01 06:56:31 PM kdavis   OSLEC
2009-05-01 06:56:35 PM kdavis   http://www.rowetel.com/ucasterisk/oslec.html
2009-05-01 06:56:41 PM kdavis   get's rid of most software echo
2009-05-01 06:56:52 PM kdavis   Open Source Line Echo Canceller (OSLEC)
2009-05-01 06:56:58 PM ncherry   Cool!
2009-05-01 06:57:16 PM kdavis   what kind of card are you using?
2009-05-01 06:57:19 PM ncherry   I hope it works with the Supras (/Cisco) I have two
2009-05-01 06:57:28 PM kdavis   i haven't tried with a Sipura
2009-05-01 06:57:31 PM ncherry   a 3000 and 3010
2009-05-01 06:57:32 PM kdavis   wait
2009-05-01 06:57:37 PM kdavis   it won't work with a sipura
2009-05-01 06:57:43 PM kdavis   (I don't think)
2009-05-01 06:57:48 PM kdavis   it's for internal hardware
2009-05-01 06:57:51 PM kdavis   not ATA's.
2009-05-01 06:57:57 PM ncherry   rats
2009-05-01 06:57:58 PM kdavis   like an x100p card
2009-05-01 06:58:16 PM ncherry   NASTY! no x100p, kills box dead
2009-05-01 06:58:50 PM kdavis   really?
2009-05-01 06:58:56 PM ncherry   I'll probably have to get teh hardware solution (expensive)
2009-05-01 06:58:57 PM kdavis   I've had friends who've got it working well
2009-05-01 06:59:06 PM ncherry   64K interrupts/sec dead
2009-05-01 06:59:09 PM kdavis   i've got one lying around new in the box
2009-05-01 06:59:16 PM ncherry   That's a lot of interrupts
2009-05-01 06:59:33 PM kdavis   i haven't tried it yet
2009-05-01 06:59:35 PM ncherry   I've got one around here too (may have two)
2009-05-01 06:59:46 PM kdavis   i've also got a Sipura new in box lying around that I haven't tried yet
2009-05-01 06:59:52 PM kdavis   your 7960 is SIP?
2009-05-01 06:59:54 PM ncherry   I also have a Cisco 83x router/gateway
2009-05-01 06:59:59 PM ncherry   Yes, sip
2009-05-01 07:00:07 PM kdavis   ah, ok
2009-05-01 07:00:16 PM kdavis   my 7970's are running skinny via asterisk
2009-05-01 07:00:18 PM ncherry   I don't like mgcp (though I can get my hands on some of those too)
2009-05-01 07:01:50 PM ncherry   Ah, it's an Cisco 827-4V (4 port FXS, I think, for the pots line phone)
2009-05-01 07:02:04 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:02:09 PM kdavis   linuxmce installs the 7970's seemless via skinny (PnP).
2009-05-01 07:02:33 PM kdavis   I was hoping that netremote had the same capabilities, but I figure it's still in new, so...
2009-05-01 07:02:37 PM kdavis   can't expect everything, lol
2009-05-01 07:02:47 PM ncherry   Netremote?
2009-05-01 07:03:25 PM kdavis   sorry, openremote
2009-05-01 07:03:32 PM ncherry   I have been busy with school and work so I'm having a little (more than a little) trouble keeping up with all the technology
2009-05-01 07:03:45 PM ncherry   Ah, That's us (I can remember that much )
2009-05-01 07:03:49 PM kdavis   are you the lead dev?
2009-05-01 07:03:55 PM ncherry   No
2009-05-01 07:03:58 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:04:16 PM ncherry   Juha and Jean-Luc are more lead
2009-05-01 07:04:27 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:04:32 PM ncherry   I have my interests (using Groovy as a scripting language)
2009-05-01 07:04:43 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:04:53 PM ncherry   Also integrating some hardware (my ELK, X10, Insteon) and Linux stuff
2009-05-01 07:05:06 PM kdavis   nice, so you're an Elker
2009-05-01 07:05:18 PM kdavis   i decided to go with HAI
2009-05-01 07:05:22 PM ncherry   I've got a nice unit
2009-05-01 07:05:29 PM kdavis   M1?
2009-05-01 07:05:34 PM ncherry   Yes
2009-05-01 07:05:38 PM kdavis   yup
2009-05-01 07:05:52 PM ncherry   I consider it a security system more than an AH system
2009-05-01 07:05:58 PM ncherry   Ah, HA
2009-05-01 07:06:02 PM kdavis   it is more of a security system
2009-05-01 07:06:09 PM kdavis   that's what the original purpose was
2009-05-01 07:06:15 PM ncherry   Yes
2009-05-01 07:06:17 PM kdavis   it's morphed into a full HA system
2009-05-01 07:06:28 PM kdavis   Dean's a good dude
2009-05-01 07:06:28 PM ncherry   Not by my definition
2009-05-01 07:06:35 PM kdavis   i've spoken/met with him personally a few times
2009-05-01 07:07:03 PM ncherry   (see http://www.linuxha.com/domotics.html )
2009-05-01 07:07:43 PM ncherry   Dang I never get to meet anyone, wish I could go to the Amsterdam meeting at the end of the month
2009-05-01 07:07:56 PM ncherry   I *really* want to got o that one!
2009-05-01 07:08:20 PM kdavis   Meet people at Elk?
2009-05-01 07:08:26 PM ncherry   Hopefully there is another in December, I'll get ready for tha one
2009-05-01 07:08:33 PM ncherry   No, OpenRemote
2009-05-01 07:08:36 PM kdavis   oh, ok
2009-05-01 07:08:55 PM ncherry   Marc Fleury, Juha, Jean-Luc and many other should be there
2009-05-01 07:09:04 PM ncherry   This is a very internation group!
2009-05-01 07:09:25 PM kdavis   yup
2009-05-01 07:09:33 PM kdavis   if you like linux and HA stuff, check this video out: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2176025602905109829&hl=en
2009-05-01 07:10:27 PM ncherry   Definetly like linux ha (it's my site)
2009-05-01 07:10:54 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:11:06 PM kdavis   there is a High-Def version of that video somewhere
2009-05-01 07:11:20 PM ncherry   Hmm, video is stuck (damned Ubuntu)
2009-05-01 07:12:20 PM kdavis   gives a perspective of how far linuxmce has gone with HA
2009-05-01 07:13:23 PM ncherry   I think that's the video from last year or the year before (I got it unstuck)
2009-05-01 07:13:48 PM kdavis   yes, it's old
2009-05-01 07:13:49 PM ncherry   I'm not real big on the Entertainment system part of HA
2009-05-01 07:13:59 PM guest733   enter the room
2009-05-01 07:14:03 PM guest733   quit the room
2009-05-01 07:14:22 PM kdavis   yea, people think its a media center
2009-05-01 07:14:32 PM kdavis   but, it's probably 40% media
2009-05-01 07:14:39 PM kdavis   if that
2009-05-01 07:14:44 PM kdavis   60% HA
2009-05-01 07:15:02 PM ncherry   I'd say about 20%, though it's the bigger part of the budget
2009-05-01 07:15:20 PM kdavis   20% media?
2009-05-01 07:15:50 PM ncherry   Yeah, my definition: comfort, security, entertainment, communications, and information processing
2009-05-01 07:16:27 PM kdavis   oh
2009-05-01 07:16:38 PM kdavis   i was talking about linuxmce's capabilities/features
2009-05-01 07:16:45 PM kdavis   40% media (if that)
2009-05-01 07:16:46 PM ncherry   Oh, sorry
2009-05-01 07:16:54 PM kdavis   most of it is home automation capabilities
2009-05-01 07:17:23 PM ncherry   Yeah, they've got the ZWave driver I need for my USB stick
2009-05-01 07:17:37 PM ncherry   The HA22
2009-05-01 07:18:08 PM ncherry   How do they handle scripting?
2009-05-01 07:18:57 PM kdavis   everything is done via what they call the DCE
2009-05-01 07:19:07 PM kdavis   you then create templates for whatever you want to work
2009-05-01 07:19:25 PM ncherry   Hmm, DCE ...
2009-05-01 07:19:44 PM kdavis   http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/DCE
2009-05-01 07:20:06 PM kdavis   programmers guide: http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Programmer%27s_Guide
2009-05-01 07:20:21 PM kdavis   extensive developers guide: http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Developers_Guide
2009-05-01 07:21:32 PM ncherry   As close as I can guess we're similar in that we have a core buss (JBoss).
2009-05-01 07:22:00 PM ncherry   I'm suggesting we use Groovy as the scripting language (close to Java)
2009-05-01 07:22:13 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:23:27 PM ncherry   Juha has added support for x10 and KNX
2009-05-01 07:23:51 PM kdavis   nice
2009-05-01 07:24:00 PM ncherry   another gentleman adding support for a telnet like interface (I'm guessing just networking)
2009-05-01 07:24:16 PM kdavis   and someone is doing HAI support
2009-05-01 07:24:27 PM ncherry   I'm looking to add an expect library via groovy (ie tcl's/expect)
2009-05-01 07:24:32 PM ncherry   Yes
2009-05-01 07:24:52 PM ncherry   sorry forgot about that, the newer ip protocol as I understand it
2009-05-01 07:25:01 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:25:15 PM ncherry   We can support anything, just needs a module an dfollow the API
2009-05-01 07:25:29 PM ncherry   (we're working on that but it follows JBoss)
2009-05-01 07:25:57 PM ncherry   I'm current;y running Misterhouse and various custom solutions
2009-05-01 07:25:58 PM kdavis   yea, which is why I'm keen about openremote
2009-05-01 07:26:16 PM kdavis   but, I wish it had telephony stuff going
2009-05-01 07:26:25 PM ncherry   It didn't take much to convince me that JBss fit my needs
2009-05-01 07:26:52 PM ncherry   We just got started (January) so we're making progress, just need a module to interface the two
2009-05-01 07:27:05 PM ncherry   As I recall Asterisk wasn't difficult to talk to
2009-05-01 07:27:13 PM kdavis   na, it's probably easy
2009-05-01 07:27:19 PM kdavis   I just don't have much dev background
2009-05-01 07:27:34 PM ncherry   I had a chapter written on Misterhouse, Festical and JBoss but lost it in a drive crash (so not in my book)
2009-05-01 07:27:43 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:27:50 PM kdavis   is this book published?
2009-05-01 07:28:05 PM ncherry   Yes, Linux Smart Homes for Dummies
2009-05-01 07:28:31 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:28:33 PM kdavis   is there a link to suggested hardware for your core/server?
2009-05-01 07:28:33 PM ncherry   Though ti's two years old and it's kind of out of date by my thinking
2009-05-01 07:29:05 PM ncherry   Yeah ...
2009-05-01 07:29:18 PM kdavis   and you haven't heard about linuxmce?
2009-05-01 07:29:21 PM kdavis   interesting
2009-05-01 07:29:44 PM ncherry   I remember it when it was called Pluto Home
2009-05-01 07:29:53 PM kdavis   right
2009-05-01 07:30:04 PM kdavis   you're not to far from me...
2009-05-01 07:30:21 PM ncherry   You from Jersey?
2009-05-01 07:30:41 PM kdavis   NY
2009-05-01 07:31:19 PM ncherry   Referemce: http://www.openremote.org/display/orb/OpenRemote+Box http://www.openremote.org/display/orb/OpenRemote+Hardware
2009-05-01 07:31:37 PM ncherry   Jean-Luc is from da Bronx
2009-05-01 07:31:45 PM kdavis   nice
2009-05-01 07:31:51 PM kdavis   I'm VERY close to Jean-Luc
2009-05-01 07:31:59 PM kdavis   Jean-Luc is one of the main devs?
2009-05-01 07:32:05 PM ncherry   Yes
2009-05-01 07:32:09 PM kdavis   cool
2009-05-01 07:32:19 PM kdavis   Jean-Luc ever around?
2009-05-01 07:32:27 PM ncherry   I think he does dev work professionally
2009-05-01 07:32:43 PM ncherry   Yes, he's usually here, seems quiet right now
2009-05-01 07:32:51 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:32:59 PM ncherry   Juha is from the Netherlands
2009-05-01 07:33:10 PM ncherry   MarcF is from Spain at the moment
2009-05-01 07:33:19 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:33:33 PM ncherry   Then there are others who I can't exactly keep track of.
2009-05-01 07:33:57 PM ncherry   Lots of posting on the forums of OpenRemote
2009-05-01 07:34:03 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:34:08 PM ncherry   I've got to get a few answered today
2009-05-01 07:34:39 PM ncherry   Oh, be right back, biblical duty (He brews .. tea )
2009-05-01 07:36:51 PM ncherry   ?? what was that all about?
2009-05-01 07:36:59 PM kdavis   no clue
2009-05-01 07:37:04 PM kdavis   I used the word "ok" to many times
2009-05-01 07:37:07 PM kdavis   lol
2009-05-01 07:37:11 PM kdavis   so, it muted me.
2009-05-01 07:37:26 PM ncherry   It's automatic so I don't know what that is
2009-05-01 07:37:55 PM kdavis   ok
2009-05-01 07:38:10 PM ncherry   trouble maker
2009-05-01 07:38:17 PM kdavis   I guess, lol
2009-05-01 07:39:43 PM ncherry   I've gotta run, gotta read a few more chapters in my Java book and the book on JBoss so I can get a better understanding how this all plugs together. Later!
2009-05-01 07:40:31 PM kdavis   night!
2009-05-01 09:03:56 PM jean-luc   heh I have times of sometimes too
2009-05-01 09:04:31 PM ncherry   ???
2009-05-01 09:05:09 PM jean-luc   about not being around ...
2009-05-01 09:05:24 PM jean-luc   anyway I'm dutch but in NL - Juha is Finnish
2009-05-01 09:05:30 PM ncherry   oh
2009-05-01 09:05:46 PM ncherry   Wow, am I getting confused
2009-05-01 09:06:13 PM ncherry   I new you were Dutch but Isn't Juha living in the Netherlands?
2009-05-01 09:06:23 PM jean-luc   but in NYC I meant
2009-05-01 09:06:36 PM ncherry   Da Bronx,
2009-05-01 09:06:44 PM jean-luc   no Juha is in Switzerland and Taiwan
2009-05-01 09:06:47 PM ncherry   OH!
2009-05-01 09:07:37 PM ncherry   Well it's only a few miles difference (using 'merican geographic learning )
2009-05-01 09:09:13 PM jean-luc   yeah
2009-05-01 09:09:38 PM ncherry   Wouldn't want to walk that distance though
2009-05-01 09:10:22 PM ncherry   I gave some thought to the questions you posed the other day
2009-05-01 09:10:50 PM ncherry   I've been looking at it from the users prospective and not sure how to takle the problem
2009-05-01 09:11:22 PM ncherry   The user only sees this as a TV and a remote with the magic happening in the middle
2009-05-01 09:11:42 PM ncherry   not sure how to keep them thinking that way while we do the magic in the middle
2009-05-01 09:12:39 PM ncherry   I guess the setup screen for the TV could ask for the information for the location and device that really talks to the TV (IR, GC, RS232 or IP)
2009-05-01 09:12:50 PM ncherry   Then create the appropriate objects
2009-05-01 09:13:04 PM jean-luc   yeah I had some talk about it with Juha today as well.
2009-05-01 09:13:15 PM jean-luc   Because I was playing with the TIVO
2009-05-01 09:13:27 PM jean-luc   You can ping it with telnet on port 31339
2009-05-01 09:13:32 PM jean-luc   instead of IR
2009-05-01 09:13:33 PM ncherry   The change part gets tough especially when it's changed between two dissimilar communication methods
2009-05-01 09:13:39 PM jean-luc   very nice and convenient
2009-05-01 09:13:52 PM jean-luc   so you want to add those commands to Beehive to
2009-05-01 09:13:58 PM ncherry   Can you get 1080i with the HD Tivo?
2009-05-01 09:14:01 PM jean-luc   same for all the GC supported
2009-05-01 09:14:08 PM jean-luc   yes
2009-05-01 09:14:29 PM ncherry   Next question, Behive will be tge db for any device not just IR right?
2009-05-01 09:16:53 PM jean-luc   yes
2009-05-01 09:26:02 PM jean-luc   I just had to write my blog ..
2009-05-01 09:26:26 PM ncherry   On OR or your local one?
2009-05-01 09:27:09 PM jean-luc   local http://tinyurl.com/ctl6b8
2009-05-01 09:29:51 PM ncherry   Have you seen the South Park movie?
2009-05-01 09:29:57 PM jean-luc   yes
2009-05-01 09:30:20 PM ncherry   The original was less everything
2009-05-01 09:30:47 PM ncherry   The FCC complained so the creators removed the complaints and added everything else
2009-05-01 09:31:01 PM jean-luc   i like SP a lot, it's just sad in a way that most of it is actually real
2009-05-01 09:31:05 PM ncherry   The FCC is a really odd group in what it allows and does not
2009-05-01 09:31:30 PM ncherry   Irony, doctors recommend a daily dosage
2009-05-01 09:33:28 PM jean-luc   yeah
2009-05-01 09:34:58 PM ncherry   The world is filled with the sadistic, never underestimate the sadistic pleasures some people can get from picking on the 'lesser' (in their eyes)
2009-05-01 09:35:07 PM ncherry   Gotta run
2009-05-01 09:35:09 PM ncherry   nite
2009-05-01 09:35:15 PM jean-luc   ciao
2009-05-01 10:10:35 PM guest93   hey
2009-05-01 10:11:10 PM kdavis   jean-luc: I hear you're in the BX
2009-05-01 10:12:08 PM kdavis   I guess I missed everyone here
2009-05-01 10:13:02 PM kdavis   I'll be back tomorrow
2009-05-01 10:13:05 PM kdavis   good night!

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